Despite Sadie's insistence and his sympathy with her, Arthur will say revenge would be no good for them for the time being. Arthur respected Miss Grimshaw's authority. She is one of the first gang members to help Arthur when he escapes back at camp after he has been tortured by Colm O'Driscoll and his men. It is hinted by Dutch that Arthur may have had sex with Abigail before her relationship with John, as did the other members of the gang, when he is confronted by John at the bank in Blackwater in 1911. When John was just 12 years old, he was caught stealing and was sentenced to hang, but Dutch intervened and ushered him into his gang. It is generally believed that Mary-Beth had a crush on Arthur until, at least, she started developing feelings for Kieran. Miss Grimshaw showed her loyalty was to Arthur instead of Dutch by the end of the story when, during the standoff between Arthur and Micah, Miss Grimshaw sided with Arthur. As well as being friendly to each other around camp, Arthur can, when the gang is celebrating, dance with her. Upon learning of the pregnancy Arthur offered Eliza whatever support he could give. An indication of how much his relationship with John has evolved. However, Arthur would reassure Lenny that he has friends and that he should not try to impress everyone in the gang because the people that matter (himself, Dutch and Hosea) are aware of the effort he puts in. After the attack on Cornwall's oil factory Arthur offered to stay and help Charles move the Wapiti Tribe but he declined, stating that there are people that still need Arthur’s help. By this point in the story Dutch and Arthur's relationship has fallen apart and during the escape Dutch leaves Arthur for dead, only for Eagle Flies to come to his rescue, but gets himself mortally wounded in the process by Colonel Favours. Edith Downes is a supporting character featured in Red Dead Redemption 2. Their relationship, however, is soured when Bill (unintentionally) lures Arthur, Sean and Micah into an ambush that ends with Sean being killed. John can then dispose of Cleet and have his revenge. Fittingly, the grave overlooks the location where Arthur told John to escape the gang and make a new life for himself and his family. However, Micah's skill as a shooter perhaps makes Arthur even more concerned about his influence on Dutch. Arthur saw Hosea as a father figure, much like Dutch, and looked up to him. During the gang standoff at Beaver Hollow, Javier sides with Dutch and Micah against Arthur and John, although he is hesitant and doesn't fully point his gun at the pair; additionally, he is not seen chasing down Arthur and John, hinting at some fondness he still had for Arthur and/or John. When he does tell her this she deeply sympathies with Arthur but she will also try to reassure him, and tell him he still has time to do good. John was deeply saddened by Arthur's death and thought about him a lot, but only referred to him as an "old friend" in conversations with people. Arthur openly dislikes Micah because of his negative influence on the gang, and Dutch specifically. A little piece of Arthur lives with John, and it allows John to vividly remember the life of his brother. One of the motives for Arthur rescuing John from Sisika Penitentiary was for her and Jack, but also because John had begun to show that he does care for Abigail and Jack greatly, indicating that Arthur prioritises their well-being. At Valentine, when John and Strauss got themselves captured by Leviticus Cornwall's men, Arthur tells Dutch to confront and talk to them whilst he waits for him to make a move, an idea that Dutch agreed to without hesitation. Furthermore, Arthur reveals that he broke him out of prison because he cared for him, rather than for just Abigail's or Jack's sake. When the gang, alongside Dutch, support Eagle Flies at the factory, he and Arthur manage to make it to Cornwall's office and steal some lucrative state bonds. 124 comments. Arthur is the longest serving member of the Van der Linde gang, excluding Hosea, with the Van der Linde gang starting with just Dutch, Hosea and Arthur. However, Pearson takes no part in the gang's role as criminals. John ends up eliminating Micah, which in turns leads the Pinkerton agents to John's doorstep. Mary-Beth is much more sincere and considerate than the other girls, which gives Arthur the confidence to confide into Mary-Beth. Arthur is the protagonist of Red Dead Redemption 2, and as a result he has relationships with important characters, as well as numerous other minor characters in the story. Mary-Beth is unique as one of the camp members as she is rarely seen taking part in any missions, unlike Karen and Tilly. While John also saw Dutch's increased immorality and corruption, it was Arthur who finally convinced him to take his family and leave the gang behind. The resulting argument leads to Grimshaw's demise and a tense standoff between Arthur and John and Dutch, Bill, and Javier. It was on this same job that Arthur saves him after he was captured by Leviticus Cornwall's men and held at gun point, but Arthur, through his use of Dead Eye, manages to kill them before they can do anything. The gang was able to barter with Bronte for the return of Jack, much to Abigail's relief who emotionally thanked Arthur and the others. However, Dutch is initially indecisive on who to believe but ends up pointing his guns at Arthur and John. John comments that Arthur has always had his back to which Arthur responds, "Maybe not always." He viewed Sean as a lowly member of the gang due to being prone to mistakes, such as when John, Sean, Arthur and Charles were robbing a train and Sean got himself pistol whipped. One could certainly argue that the "redemption" of Red Dead Redemption 2 is about both John and Arthur. Arthur can go on a hunt for some Bison with Charles, which leads to an investigation after they find numerous dead, rotten, Bisons across the open fields. They find two of Cornwall's men and go to stealth kill them, only for Uncle to fumble it and Arthur is then forced to save him. But after their return from Guarma Javier starts to lose respect for Arthur because he has lost faith in Dutch, this is highlighted when Arthur tries to talk Javier about Dutch's erratic behaviour only for him to brush it off and refuse to talk, stating he has nothing to say to him whilst simultaneously questioning Arthur's loyalty. Arthur and John were, more or less, like brothers as both of them were raised by Dutch and Hosea for 15 years. We're going with the latter. They bonded over jokes about Pearson and his letter to his aunt that he asked them to deliver, with Sadie mocking his false claims about traversing the world, far and wide, and that although he has yet to marry he is not short of suitors. And yes, it's Arthur's journal. Seeing the physical manifestation of this tumult, in the form of a dramatic standoff, was both inspiring and tragic. He tells both her and Abigail that they are the best women he has ever known and bids an emotional farewell. In reality, however, Arthur was thankful for Kieran saving his life. He goes missing for a while when the gang moves to Shady Belle and his body soon turns up at camp on top of his horse with his decapitated head in his hands and his eyes poked out. Whilst at camp, one of the chores has Arthur moving two sacks to Pearson's wagon, and he will occasionally thank Arthur for doing this. Eliza knew of Arthur's criminal background but had accepted any support Arthur offered to her and Isaac. Yes, he was a bisexual and he got to know it a while ago. Arthur can also play Five Finger Fillet with her after "Blessed are the Peacemakers". leave a like and sub FOLLOW ME ON INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/rangelo0125 Whilst at camp Arthur treats Jack with great care and affection when talking to him. Its during a game that she tells Arthur that she learned how to play Dominoes, as well as the piano, when she was a young girl working at a bar. Arthur writes in one entry, sometime near his death, that he hopes John uses his brain better and that the luck that has eluded him will continue to help John instead. Of course, things aren't that easy... As we learn in the epilogue, Arthur gifted John his journal, which John continues to use. After Arthur says goodbye to John and tells him to run, John says, "You're my brother," to which Arthur proudly states, "I know, I know." Abigail, when Jack brings up Arthur, says that John does not like to talk about Arthur much. Before the train heist Arthur tries to talk to Dutch about letting John and his family leave the gang peacefully. The player can chose how Arthur felt about Mickey. Arthur simply retorts that he is aware he doesn't have much competition, but is clearly touched by her comment. Regardless of the player's choices, Arthur and Micah will have one last fight, either a knife fight or a fistfight. Charles mentions to Arthur that Javier has changed to which Arthur calls him a "little sack of shit" he should’ve let him to die in Guarma, signifying that their once close friendship has ended. Arthur companies Rains Fall when he goes to meet with Colonel Favours in order to arrange a peace deal between the Natives and the U.S. Army, but this ultimately fails. That is, until Jack is taken by the Braithwaites and given to Angelo Bronte. He can also ask Arthur to find him a rabbit and in return will give him a Nutritious Stew. We could go on, but we'd be here all day. It's one of the most touching scenes in the entire game, the beautiful culmination of hours' worth of character development, violence, dramatic rescues, and heroic redemption. After Arthur died Charles found his body and buried him on a hillside facing the evening sun, fulfilling Arthur's wish when he was asked how he wanted to be buried by Hosea, Lenny and Tilly. When the group went to Valentine, with Arthur and Uncle, she was the only one not to get into any confrontations. Arthur suddenly started to think about his own identity. However, their last encounter is Arthur delivering his mortally wounded son after he chose to attack Cornwall's oil factory under Dutch's manipulation to compel him to do so. Bill is shocked when he sees that Arthur is losing faith in Dutch and tells Arthur, whilst robbing some dynamites in Van Horn, that he believes he has gone soft. Arthur and Dutch enjoyed activities together such as going fishing, alongside Hosea, where the three shared anecdotes of how their lives were before the rest of the members joined. Thank you…” • … Posted by. Arthur's … Yes, he was a bisexual and he got to know it a while ago. Sean backs down and tells Arthur that he loves him, perhaps genuinely so, because of his no nonsense approach. It will mostly be Frienship/Family and Humor, but there will be Action/Adventure with some violence! She can also reprimand Arthur if he doesn't pay into the Tithing Box for a while. When getting back up Arthur jokingly tells him that he should have taken money but that he is thankful for saving him. While many members of the gang were close to Jack, it was Arthur who essentially took him under his wing while John was busy pouting. While Arthur shows more respect for John, he still talks down to him and calls him an idiot. Arthur liked Miss Grimshaw and her feelings were mutual. This can be seen as proof that Arthur has begun to care for the Wapiti Tribe and even Eagle Flies himself. Strauss was shot in the leg in this encounter and Arthur, John and Dutch worked to get him to safety. Not long after having Jack, John left the van der Linde in a moment of selfishness and self-reflection. After Hosea died, Arthur said he missed Hosea’s wisdom. Arthur jokingly tells her that none of them will live to see seven years but that he will find her a new mirror. Arthur would begin to make jokes at Bill's expense over this. Maybe Red Dead Redemption 3 will cover the glory days of the van der Linde gang, because there's a lot of meat still left on this bone. Their friendship was brief, but impactful for both parties. At the camp Bill can ask Arthur for some hair pomade and in return will leave Arthur repeater ammo beside his tent. Both start the story as immoral and violent men, and both end in better places having gone through their respective redemptive arcs. When Kieran invites Arthur on a fishing trip he opens up about his past and reveals that his parents died from cholera when he was young and ended up joining the O'Driscoll Boys, albeit reluctantly. It was Arthur's final, heroic last stand, and it allowed his brother to escape into a potential life of happiness and safety. He also gains new relationships throughout his journey. We grew to love John Marston throughout Red Dead Redemption, and we thought we knew all there was to know about him. At camp Arthur cannot really have pleasant interactions with Micah, as every conversation devolves into sarcastic disputes between the two. Micah will either put a bullet through Arthur's head or Arthur will slip away whilst watching the sunrise, succumbing to his tuberculosis, depending on his honour level. Arthur empathized with her and decided to take her out with him to collect supplies. It's pretty clear that Arthur was quite hurt by John's selfish action, as he brings it up about five thousand times in the early part of the game. Arthur and Trelawny work together to rob Miss Damsen's stagecoach, either with stealth or brute force depending on the player. Lenny's performance and competency impressed Arthur to such an extent that he declares he will ride with Lenny anytime. She revealed that she had given him to Angelo Bronte in Saint Denis. This is also doable in the final chapter of the story, but this time it is just a chance encounter rather than for celebration. Fan Art. Despite the significantly less money John accepts, with Arthur calling him a fool. Arthur goes to check on the cabin only to be surprised and held at gun point, however, Kieran saves his life by shooting the O'Driscoll first. Enraged over Hosea's death, Arthur and the gang proceed to kill several Pinkertons before escaping. With this action, Arthur was fully redeemed. Sean interpreted this as proof that Arthur and the gang missed him with Arthur not wholeheartedly disputing this. Arthur is aware of Micah's skills as a fighter and shooter, and Micah appears to respect Arthur for his shooting abilities in return, as well as saying that he finds it "fun" riding with Arthur. Of course, you can visit the grave any time you want and pay your respects. Arthur takes a moment over his body, mourning the loss of his friend. The gang showed zero tolerance towards the Braithwaite family for taking Jack, they killed all of Catherine Braithwaite's sons and burned her manor to the ground before forcing her to tell them where he was. Covering the hottest movie and TV topics that fans want. Strauss protests this by saying the sick delude themselves, a reference to Arthur's worsening illness, and that he was Arthur's friend. Arthur also keeps a flower next to his bed, which his mother saw as a good luck charm. We also learn more about the Marston family, their backgrounds, their relationships, and the impact that Arthur had on the family and their future. He admits that he respected Arthur once before, but he now considers Arthur, along with John and Charles, traitors and hopes they get whats coming to them. Lenny does not come up to Arthur for a spontaneous chat around camp. It is around this time that Arthur's doubts of Dutch starts to grow, eventually leading him to lose all faith in his gang leader. The ring John uses to propose to Abigail is Arthur's old wedding ring, and after Arthur dies John begins journaling in an effort to help keep his memory alive. John feels forever indebted to Arthur for giving him a chance to live a normal life and tried to repay him by killing Micah, along with Sadie and Charles, years later. At camp Sean can ask Arthur to find him some Kentucky Bourbon, in return he will regularly leave Fire Bottles at Arthur's tent. Pearson will then request Arthur and Sadie to pick up some groceries and to deliver a letter for him, showing his trust in Arthur, however, Sadie ends up reading the letter. This hurt Arthur deeply and left him feeling betrayed and also annoyed at John not appreciating the family he had. Lyle was a criminal and outlaw, and was arrested for larceny in 1874, and Arthur described as a "no good bastard". The gesture becomes even more meaningful when you consider Mary's words to Arthur regarding the ring - "I hope, one day, you will find some people in love who can use this." During a botched bank job in Saint Denis Lenny is shot and killed whilst the gang tries to escape across the rooftops. Arthur has a brief yet friendly relationship with Joe, with the two talking about recent events. Maybe he's honoring Arthur's legacy by not pairing him with the van der Linde gang. Arthur can have polite conversations with Molly. Uncle, Arthur, Bill and Charles are soon pursued. Here's a sad scene between John and Arthur in Red Dead Redemption 2 where they prove they're brothers for life. What little shred of faith and loyalty Arthur had left for Dutch had finally been broken. In one incident Javier calls Charles an arrogant “son of a bitch” because of his lack of faith in Dutch and further adds that he should "use [his] brain". She is also one of the members that can come up to Arthur for a chat, specifically concerning Karen and her drinking habits. Arthur, with Charles, then rescues Eagles Flies from Fort Wallace, much to Rains Fall's gratitude. Dutch can occasionally come up and talk to Arthur around camp. Both Arthur and Charles were disgusted by Dutch’s influence on Eagle Flies to get him to attack the U.S. Army which would compromise the safety on the Wapiti Tribe. Whilst at camp Miss Grimshaw will randomly talk to Arthur and can have unique interactions with him, for example, she will force Arthur to wash himself if he becomes too dirty around camp, and will be forced to pay a fine to her. At camp Arthur can have conversations with her about his life and the things he does, and in response she will provide support and comfort for Arthur. Molly will tell Arthur that she broke her pocket mirror and is worried it will give her seven years bad luck. Arthur first meets Eagle Flies along side his father, Rains Fall, in Saint Denis. He decides to leave the gang and, should Arthur not help the nun in Saint Denis, will meet Swanson at the train station after dropping off Captain Monroe. One day, Arthur went to their home and saw two crosses outside and immediately realized that they were both dead. After Arthur, Dutch, Javier, Bill and Micah return from Guarma, Arthur is surprised to discover that it was Sadie who rounded up the gang members after the failed bank job in Saint Denis and got them to safety and have since been waiting for them to return. At one point Micah tells Arthur, when he needed his help, that he looked up to him, however he was very likely lying given the circumstances. Arthur doesn't react to her death but this likely because he was caught up in the tense standoff and couldn't afford to pay any attention to her dying. After giving her the pocket mirror Molly will start leaving him a cigar at his tent. This proved to be very useful later in the story when Arthur tries to find there whereabouts of the gang after his return from Guarma. Furthermore, Arthur has an honour system and depending on the honour level, either low or high Honor, which is dictated by the player, Arthur will receive different dialogues from certain characters and will be treated differently by NPCs, too. They track down the pair of hunters who had done this and Charles, for the first time, shows his emotions as he shouts at the hunters and bluntly shoots and kills one of them. Arthur Morgan was born in 1863 to Beatrice and Lyle Morgan. Those aren't just the words of two close male friends - John considers Arthur his actual brother. save. Arthur helps rescue Abigail and defends John from the gang and Pinkerton agents. In the fight, Micah will say that he has been waiting a long time to kill Arthur, and will do so, if the player's honor is low. Whilst exploring the world Arthur can, rarely, encounter Uncle being kicked out of a Saloon and about to be attacked by a man, with Arthur having the choice to intervene and protect him. Luckily, Abigail's Spidey sense starts tingling, and she sends Arthur and Javier to rescue him. If Arthur does this there will be a regular supply of fire and poison arrows beside his bed. For example, at some point during Clemens Point chapter, Arthur may see her smoking alone at the camp's scout campfire. That is, until Red Dead Redemption 2 came along, and we realized that we barely knew him at all. She maintained her friendship with John years later. Hosea can request Arthur to find him American Ginseng and in return he will leave a bottle of Potent Medicine beside his tent. Arthur retorts that if he only cared about money he would be long gone. And, seeing as how John was indisposed after being shot, it was once again up to Arthur and Sadie to save the day. By the time the gang reaches Clemens Point, Arthur and John's relationship is a little better. Arthur would often engage in polite conversation with Strauss and would save him in Valentine when he, along with John, were held at gunpoint by Leviticus Cornwall's men. His mother died when he was very young, and his father was a petty criminal and outlaw, who was arrested for larceny in 1874 when Arthur was 11 years old. Arthur is quite the family man. However, Arthur’s distrust of Micah Bell and his manipulative nature towards Dutch, as well as Dutch's changing personality, would eventually lead to some friction. She asks if its too late for them to have a future together and asks if they could run away together. Miss Grimshaw killing Molly divides the camp with everyone under the impression that she was telling the truth, some claimed it was justified as Molly knew the rules whilst others were sympathetic towards her as she only did what she did because she loved Dutch. Maybe John was always a devoted family man - he just needed a little push to break away from the alluring hold of the gang. And just as Arthur changes throughout the story, so too does John. The relationship Arthur has with other characters can be dictated by the actions of the player, for example, the player is given the choice to talk to various gang members whilst at camp in either a positive manner or a negative one. Like some others, he decides to leave when the gang begins to fall apart. And some of these truths were not easy to see or digest. Arthur has a good relationship with Abigail and at some point he thought about marrying her had she not fallen for John and he not fallen for Mary. He points out that had anyone else ran off like he did they wouldn't have been welcomed back, and further implies that he believes Dutch coddles him too much. John Visits Arthur's GraveIt's nice to know that John still sees his brother on occasion. Arthur barges in and immediately knocks him out. Charles's personality of being quiet, mostly serious and reliable made Arthur enjoy his company and preferred to have him by his side. On one mission, when rescuing Josiah Trelawny, Arthur gets himself captured by a bounty hunter and is being choked to death, the bounty hunter offers Charles money to leave and threatens to kill Arthur if he tries anything, however, Charles rather skilfully throws a knife at the bounty hunter, instantly killing him and saving Arthur. However, it's telling that John never mentions Arthur, despite Arthur playing such a major role in his life and survival. Pearson can ask Arthur to find him a Naval Compass and in return will give him a bottle of Rum. Throughout the early parts of the story Dutch tells Arthur numerous times that he is "like a son" to him, and at one point tells him that he is more than that. However, Kieran gives up details on a possible whereabouts of Colm O'Driscoll and Dutch decides that he should go along with Arthur, John and Bill to show them where. Hosea summed up his relationship with Dutch and Arthur as "the curious couple with their unruly child." To make matters worse, the subsequent shootout forces the entire gang out of Valentine. It was her job to make sure the camp ran like clockwork. Nonetheless, Arthur still respects him deeply because he keeps the camp fed, especially the women and children, and ultimately recognises the vital role he plays in keeping the gang going. In return he will give Arthur a set of Spurs as a clothing item. At one point he makes it clear that he only thinks Arthur is around for money instead of loyalty to the gang, or Dutch. Micah convinces Dutch that Arthur and John have become disloyal which begins to strain Arthur's, and the gang's, relationship with Dutch. The fight ends with Sadie killing the O'Driscoll's last leader and opening up to him about how much she misses her husband. When the gang starts to fall apart Arthur can tell Uncle that he should leave before its too late. Tags: Red Dead Redemption 2 RDR 2 Arthur Morgan John Marston Brother Bear. Occasionally Arthur can encounter Charles working on some unique arrows at camp, if Arthur interacts with him Charles will offer to make some for Arthur if he provides him the necessary ingredients (Moonshine for fire arrows and Oleander for poison arrows). Arthur, with Miss Grimshaw, rescue Tilly and successfully capture Anthony Foreman, who Tilly warns to stay away from her. At camp Lenny can play Five Finger Fillet and Poker with Arthur. When the gang successfully get John's son back to camp he thanks Arthur for his help, Arthur tells John to spend time with his family, showing their relationship has greatly improved, with Arthur pleased to see John and his family are finally being together. They both take each other’s hands and Abigail says she has always been a good thief to which Arthur acknowledges, giving one final, emotional, goodbye before departing. A drunken Molly falsely claimed to have ratted on the gang when they moved to Beaver Hollow. If Arthur does decide to go back for the "money", it is likely that he instead wished to have one last showdown with Micah, evidenced by the fact that he will shout his name and ask him to show himself, even admitting that he went for the money because of "unfinished business" he had with him, showing the intense hatred between the two. Arthur turns to John with disappointment in his eyes and says the words we've all been feeling - "You're a fool, Marston.". 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